[stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:01:53 It will start when we start the program. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:02:22 - My name is Kevin Carrigan, just a couple of housekeeping things. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:02:29 We are recording this session. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:02:31 It's just for internal purposes so that we can learn and capture any discussion. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:02:40 We have posted a link in the chat for fully customizable captions. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:02:49 If you are willing and able please provide your name and contact was in the chat unless you were able to pre-register that way that we can follow up with you unless if there's items to give you response on. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:03:07 Our goal is to keep this to an hour. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:03:10 And we will save time for questions and answers. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:03:15 And we invite you to post questions to the chat. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:03:18 And if you can't type, you can use the raise-hand icon in Zoom. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:03:24 And we can get to you with those two methods. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:03:28 So with that said I'm going to give the election team and software team to introduce themselves. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:03:37 - My name is Tierra Williams and I'm the regional manager for the City of New York. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:03:46 I'm an African-American woman with gold earrings and a shirt with gold stripes. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:03:54 If Matt, you could introduce yourself to the group, that would be great, as well. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:04:00 - My name is Matt and I'm the senior technical manager for New York. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:04:07 I am wearing an gray shirt and I'm a white male with short brown hair. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:04:17 - My name is dean Balmer I'm one of the senior project managers for ESNS, and I'm based out of Omaha, Nebraska. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:04:29 I'm a white male in my mid-50s, so that comes with the dark hair mostly gray and I'm wearing my ESMS black quarter zip. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:04:46 where we give our machine presentations from. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:05:09 ESNS, I'll refer to as ESNS for short. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:05:17 We are responsible for accounting little half of the ballots across the United States. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:05:23 In New York State, specifically, we service the counties of New York, Nassau, and — in the 2009 and 2010 time frame, and at that time, the ADA-compliant device that we provided was called the Automark which is in use today, some of you probably may be familiar with this device and what we're attempting today is a forecast of what we're using [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:06:00 to provide as a replacement for the Autonarc. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:06:08 And it's called the ExpressVote. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:06:21 This machine, we have applied for it to be approved for use in the State of New York. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:06:32 So it is in the certification process. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:06:34 And our hope is that it would be used by voters in New York as early as next year. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:06:40 So with all that said, I'm going to turn it over to Dean. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:06:45 He's going to give you a product demonstration and, again, we welcome you to provide feedback and/or questions. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:06:52 'Cause we hope to learn anything that we can from you all so that we can possibly incorporate that into the product as we move forward with it in the State of New York. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:07:04 So Dean, all yours. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:07:06 So, again, my name is Dean Baumert but specifically for the ExpressVote XL. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:07:16 Kevin modeled a great point at the end of his part and that is we are constantly trying to get feedback on all of our devices so we've worked with a number of advocates, [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:07:30 experts from the National Federation of the Blind to the Voter Accessibility Advisory Committee in California to professors who are experts in [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:07:41 usability/accessibility especially — some of them have experience with low cognitive and low literacy voters. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:07:56 So quite a range of feedback that we're trying to make this machine — allow — to make this machine support voters of absolutely every possible demographic. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:08:08 What I'm going to do today is I'm going to very quickly describe the machine and then I will go ahead and go through a [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:08:19 kind of the default voting mode and that is for a [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:08:25 voter that is just going to use all the standard features with no accessibility features. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:08:31 So for those of you who are not sighted, I will do my best to describe things as we go along. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:08:39 And then we will as quickly as possible get to the assistive technologies including the audio functions [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:08:48 and the key-tab navigations and things like that. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:08:52 So the machine and then, again, we will be watching for raised hands and questions in the chat impel look for opportunities throughout to answer those. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:09:05 But there'll be ≈ time at the end of the session to get through as many of those as possible. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:09:14 So the machine that we are showing today. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:09:16 And I'll go ahead and describe it. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:09:18 The main portion that a person would see is a 32-inch tablet PC. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:09:27 So it looks like a TV screen. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:09:29 It has a very large display. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:09:32 Because we are providing a full-faced ballot individual-user interface. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:09:37 So New York's — the State of New York has a full-faced ballot requirement. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:09:43 And on our existing system, we provide that full content on a piece of paper. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:09:51 But that content can get squished down quite small. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:10:00 So we are able to provide that full ballot experience on the UI. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:10:06 To the right of the 32-inch touch-screen is what we call the paper-path module or PPM. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:10:14 And it's a gray device about as tall as the display. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:10:19 And it is about 5 inches wide and it has a view window. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:10:24 And the piece of paper that becomes the ballot gets put into that paper path and similar to the Automark and other ballot-marking devices it's going to scan that paper and figure out if it's already been voted and if in the voter wants to read back the selection printed. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:10:45 Or if it's an unmarked ballot and they want to go through the whole voting process, vote, make their selections, print and go on — and WSA. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:10:57 cast. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:10:58 So down at the bottom, there is a ≈ cart that the whole thing can be simply rolled in, plugged in, and turned on. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:11:07 So the reason for the size of the cart is a durable base but also inside the cart are up to four marine batteries that will allow the machine to run for about 14 hours. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:11:22 So if there's a Hurricane Sandy event, any voter doesn't have to worry about the machine not being available. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:11:33 And in the back if you could see it, is where they access the batteries. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:11:39 And also, we will, at some point, get into the audio tech-dial key pad as we go into the assistive session. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:11:54 But let's go ahead and do the society session as a voter without the need for assistive technologies would go through. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:12:05 They will be handed a piece of paper. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:12:08 So what I'm holding is four and a quarter inch. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:12:13 And it has a quarter cut out of it on the upper right side is that a sighted or non-sighted voter can tactily or visually see how the [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:12:26 paper needs to be oriented. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:12:28 There is a particular way that it needs to go into the machine. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:12:32 And that piece of paper by simply inserting the piece of paper, it's going to start the voting session and I'm going to do that here. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:12:40 - I'm sorry, this is Kevin and I'm going to pause you here because of couple of the comments in the chat. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:12:51 Lulu, I'm not sure what you mean about the transcript. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:12:56 - Thank you, it's all great. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:12:59 The transcript is working perfectly. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:13:01 Thank you so much for your concern. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:13:03 And then Rory asked, can you pin the person showing the machine? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:13:09 Our intention is half of your viewing area should be Dean with his presentation and then the other half is should be the ASL interpreter. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:13:17 If that is not the case for you, let us know. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:13:20 But that is our intended view. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:13:23 - This is Turker. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:13:26 I have clicked — if you click on view, I've clicked on gallery and then the speaker. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:13:34 And then the speaker got me the presentation that is expected to be there. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:13:39 - Can you say that sequence one more time? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:13:41 - There's a little icon on the screen and mine is on the top right. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:13:49 It looks like a movie set clipboard that says view next to it. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:13:55 Click on it if you can, and then back to speaker. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:13:58 Speaker mode is what you want. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:14:00 Thank you. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:14:01 - And if you are on your phone if you swipe to the left and right, you should be able to find that speaker view. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:14:08 - I just wanted to make sure that everyone is getting the presentation as we hoped so I wanted to pause you there. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:14:15 But watt further ado, I wanted to start the voting session. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:14:20 - I have the best producers in the industry. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:14:24 So the sheet is the same weight as the traditional ballot so it is not a flimsy piece of thermal paper. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:14:34 - I believe we are changing interpreters. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:14:37 - There's two minutes left but okay. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:14:40 - Okay. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:14:41 So I'm going to reset my timer. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:14:50 All right. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:14:50 - And we have interpreter 2. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:14:54 - Thank you. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:14:55 So without further ado, we will match up the corner cut on the upper right-hand side of the piece of paper. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:15:03 With the same shape on the entrance of the paper path. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:15:13 You'll has she the paper go in. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:15:16 The paper path is going to put it in at high speed and scan it. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:15:22 It has realized that it is unvoted so it's going to start a voting session. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:15:27 You will see now on the screen for those who are able to see that there is multiple-language options. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:15:35 I'm going to choose to stay in English but I can switch to either of the ones available. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:15:42 And it's going to bring up the entire content of the ballot on a single screen. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:15:48 So what it's showing right now is a grid portion of the ballot where the parties are down on the left side and the offices, governor, house of representatives, state senator are along the top. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:16:03 And this grid format is what New York election — or New York voters are very familiar with and it allows them to vote quite quickly. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:16:14 I'm going to make a couple of selections and we can talk a little bit but similar to all of our ballot-marking devices there's going to be certain rules that are enforced that prevent you to voting in a way that is not counted. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:16:30 So I am not able to vote for more than one. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:16:34 And so it automatically deselects one and selects the next one I chose. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:16:39 But we'll go ahead and make all of our selections. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:16:43 Then I can hit the button down in the lower right corner and it's going to give me an "are you sure" [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:16:52 prompt. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:16:54 And that is it's going to print the card so that I can review it but it's going to remind me that once it's printed it's little harder to start over. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:17:05 You can then take that carted and get it spoiled but if you're not sure, you can go back to the screen but I'm going to hit print. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:17:17 For a sighted voter, they're going to see, again, their selections on the left side, on the screen, they're also going to see their printed selection and, in this case, it's printing in multiple languages. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:17:31 And that allows them to verify that what they selected on the screen was accurately represented in the human verifiable part of the card. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:17:44 If I am — if I am — let me see, if they're providing a little bit of light. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:17:53 If I am confident that they're exactly a match, I can go ahead and cast my ballot. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:17:58 It's going to give you an "are you sure" [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:18:01 because once it's cast, you are done. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:18:05 And, again, it's injected at high speed into a card bin attached to the back and that ballot is now in a locked secured container. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:18:17 And the voting session is done. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:18:20 So what we've found is for a voter voting in that manner, it is going to be about a 90-second process — so very fast. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:18:34 And some faster, we've seen voting processes as fast as is a is a 15-20 seconds but about a 90-second question. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:18:47 And the next thing is assistive technologies so we're going to go through that process and we're going to show an assisted vote session and to do that I am going to pull ought our audio- decked-out keypad and I'm going to show this. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:19:06 So for those of you who can see, I have it on the screen and for those of you who are not I will describe it. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:19:12 I'm holding what looks to be a small kind of an iPad tablet-sized device. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:19:20 It is about 5 inches tall and 7 inches wide and about an inch thick and what this size allows is for a voter to either hold it in one hand and scan the Braille and buttons with the other or they can set it in their lap and for the people [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:19:41 who are seated or want to be seated is because they prefer to interact with the keypad with both hands but also for both of the buttons they're concave and ridges around so if a voter wants to interact with a head stick or a mouth stick it allows them to hit the button that they're looking for. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:20:05 On the keypad, there are navigation buttons so arrows for left and right and up and down. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:20:14 Up and down is for moving within a context and allows you to get into some qualification options which allows you to change some things without having to have the poll worker come and help you. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:20:27 Left and right buttons help you navigate from contest and contest. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:20:37 There are temple controls to speed up the audio faster or slower. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:20:44 There is a home button that can take you to the top of the ballot or to the top of the contest or the top of the ballot. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:20:51 There are — there is a repeat and a pause button. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:20:56 to repeat an audio prompt or pause it and there is an info button that allows you to get to the help screen and will show from that help screen you can do things like listen to the instructions for how to vote or you can [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:21:12 blank the screen for some additional privacy. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:21:16 And then finally on the lower left of the keypad is a jack for a two-switch device either for a rocker panel or a sip-and puff device and so we're going to go ahead and start. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:21:40 I am going to plug in our speakers so that everything that the audio ballot is saying, you can hear that. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:21:47 - To begin voting, insert your card. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:21:51 - So it's just said to begin, I have to insert a call. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:21:59 Please insert your card. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:22:01 - Para empezar inserte tu tarjeta [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:22:17 - So unless the user has significant motor dexterity, they'll be able to use it themselves. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:22:27 - Press any key on the accessible voting console. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:22:32 - So what it just said is what I want to go and use the assistive technologies, [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:22:37 - Enter assistive voting for use of the assistive voting console. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:22:45 To vote with audio assistance press the right. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:22:50 - And I pressed the — so to get into the assistive mode to use the audio features and navigate with the keypad, the only thing that you need to do is press a button on the keypad. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:23:05 Very simple to use, and no poll-worker assistance required. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:23:10 So I can go ahead and restart the audio but it just told me that if you want to use the assistive mode, right arrow moves you forward, left arrow returns you back to the standard default mode. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:23:23 - Just scroll through the available languages, press the up and down arrow keys. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:23:32 So one of the first things that we usually get from voters using this is they do two things especially if they have no sight, they will crank up the volume. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:23:45 - Volume, volume, volume, volume up — so scroll to the available volume, volume down. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:23:53 - Play back, play back, play back faster. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:23:57 To scroll to the available language, press the up and down keys. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:24:00 If you are using a — voting instructions, to skip voting instructions and STPWO to voting press the right key at any time. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:24:12 This key cannot be used at this time. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:24:15 To skip voting instructions and return to voting press the right arrow. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:24:20 - I believe our intention here is we want you to hear it as if you were in front of the machine. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:24:28 So we're going to let the machine do the talking here but Dean will announce which buttons he's pressing so that you can understand which button he hit to get through the prompt. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:24:42 - So there are a lot of instructions here. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:24:47 I am going to skip a little bit ahead. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:24:50 I'm going to hit the right button that will take us from the instruction screen to the ballot. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:24:58 And for the sake of the interpreters if I need to say something, I will pause the audio. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:25:02 - This is the top of the ballot. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:25:04 From here. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:25:05 Press the up arrow key to go to assistive key. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:25:11 Or quick voting. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:25:11 For help at any time, press the round info key. If you are using a two-position device, press yes, sir to make a selection. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:25:26 To make a selection, press the square select key. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:25:29 If you are using a two selection key, press — [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:25:35 - So I'm going to use the down arrow to — [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:25:38 - I don't mean to interrupt but can you slow the tempo a little bit so the ASL interpreters can keep up with the pace. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:25:48 - Play back slower play back slower play back slower. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:25:55 - And if we need a little more, please feel free to let me know. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:26:01 So we are on the first contest. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:26:04 It says it's on the race of for governor. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:26:08 - First choice, Gini, to Perier. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:26:17 Selected. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:26:18 You have fully voted this contest. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:26:20 To continue, press the contact key. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:26:27 You have fully voted this contest. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:26:33 - So I pressed the down arrow to get to the antiI wanted. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:26:36 I pressed the square select key to make the selection and it told me that it reread the candidate name and told me that I had selected it and reminded me that the contest was fully vote. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:26:53 d. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:26:56 It will remind me that I had additional selections that I could have made but didn't. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:27:01 So I will go to the right arrow key and I will go through a little bit faster but through the additional contest but it will work exactly the same way. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:27:12 So right arrow to go to the next contest. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:27:15 U.S. House of Representatives, district 1, vote for one, there are three choices. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:27:22 To hear each choice, press the down arrow key. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:27:26 First choice, Barb Wire. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:27:31 So I'm going to select them with the square button. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:27:35 - Barb Wire selected. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:27:38 You have fully voted this contest. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:27:40 To continue press the right arrow key. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:27:43 - And I'm going to change my mind so I can deselect them and I'm going to go ahead and do a right instead. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:27:55 - Sonny Day. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:27:57 Last choice. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:27:58 - After you get to the right in, let's pause to get to change STPW-RPTS. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:28:09 To change interpreters. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:28:12 - You have chosen a write-in candidate. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:28:15 You can write up to 30 characters. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:28:18 Please press the right arrow key to fill in the candidate. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:28:25 Press the square select key on the console. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:28:28 To erase the previous letter press the backspace. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:28:32 To repeat instructions and return to the beginning of the a fact press the home key and the left for the home down key. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:28:42 If I go too far, I can up arrow, if I get to the end of the alphabet, it's going to go through some of the special characters and then wrap that to the beginning. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:28:52 So I decided my best friend is Bob, I'm going to vote for Bob. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:28:58 - A, B, you've selected B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O... [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:29:11 - So I've down arrow, selected through the alphabet. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:29:15 - You've selected O. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:29:17 - M, M, L, K, Y just, I, H, C, D, B. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:29:25 U selected B. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:29:27 - Now for the sighted voters that his this, they're seeing an ABC block keyboard but the in fact for the key papped is really designed for the blind voters. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:29:47 ≈ And will occasionally keep kick themselves out of the contest. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:29:53 So we do have a warning that allows them to go back in. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:29:58 Which allows them to go back in without losing their selections. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:30:03 But I'm happy with this. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:30:04 - Accept changes. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:30:06 Are you ready to accept this selection? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:30:08 To accept the changes, right, candidate selected. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:30:12 You've selected BOB. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:30:14 You have fully voted this contest. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:30:16 To continue, press the right arrow key. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:30:19 - So I've right arrowed to go on, I've right arrowed to accept. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:30:24 And then I'm going to hit the right arrow and it reads back what I've entered and then I'm going to go through the right arrow key to go to the next one. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:30:39 First choice, Saul. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:30:44 Saul Utation. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:30:50 Positive and negative effects on society. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:30:52 A vote for next says that you're in favor three-day weekends. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:30:58 Are you in favor a three day weekend. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:31:01 There are two choices. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:31:02 First choice, yes. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:31:03 - Because everybody wants a three day weekend. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:31:07 - Yes, selected. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:31:09 You have fully voted this contest. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:31:11 To continue press the right arrow key. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:31:14 This is a summary of your ballot selections. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:31:17 Press the up and down arrow keys. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:31:20 If you are — to continue. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:31:22 To change any of your selections, please press the contest that you want to engage and press the select key. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:31:31 Choices and press yes or pause to make a selection if you need more help ask an election official. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:31:38 - So I've voted all my contests. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:31:41 I'm present with a summary screen. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:31:46 I can use the up or down arrow key to go down and listen to every selection that I've made. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:31:52 If I realize I made a mistake, I can select that contest and go back and it will change me to the spot. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:32:03 - I'd like to recap what — so to reiterate, the voter is handed a four and quarter inch wide card when they kinetic to vote and then they insert that card to start the voting session and then they can interact with the screen with a touch screen or the panel in order to make selections. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:32:29 Those selections at this point have not been committed to the paper. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:32:32 This is the last opportunity [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:32:34 for you to review what you've chosen before those choices get printed on the card that started the voting session. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:32:42 - Yes, and once that card is printed, there is a way to, again, end the vote session and have it spoiled if you realize it was incorrect but we're going to go ahead and [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:32:55 print. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:32:56 - Print your ballot. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:32:57 You cannot change your vote selections after printing your ballot. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:33:01 To continue and print your ballot, please wait, please wait, printing ballot. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:33:10 Review printed card, your vote selections have been printed. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:33:15 To cast your ballot press the arrow key. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:33:19 If you are using a two position device press no all accepted to print through your selections. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:33:26 - So at this point, what I have the option of doing is simply casting. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:33:30 - Review printed cart. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:33:33 - Or I can have it read back what was actually scanned from the piece of paper. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:33:39 So this not only allows you to review the selections that you've entered but it allows you to review the piece of paper just like a sighted voter would. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:33:50 So I'm going to go ahead. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:33:52 We've done the review process. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:33:54 I'm going to go ahead and cast this. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:33:56 - Your votes were cast. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:33:58 Thank you for voting. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:34:00 - So I've turned off the audio now. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:34:02 A couple things to note. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:34:04 This machine is configured as both a ballot marking device and a tabulator for the demonstration here. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:34:15 So the automark would give you the brute and return it to you. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:34:21 And you would have to turn it in using a privacy sleeve and put it in to have it counted. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:34:28 This is what we often referred to as a hybrid device so it's going to both your ma the ballot and it's going to scan it and it's going to store the data and it's going to put it into the ballot bin on the back and [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:34:43 you are only necessary to interact with one of the one device and it is completely kind of a one stop shop. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:34:56 And every voter is going to be voting on this and every voter and going to have the same paper ballot and the same voting experience. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:35:06 So we talked about a standard voting session being 90 seconds. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:35:12 We typically see from the data that we've gotten from running this ballot trauma live elections in places like Philadelphia or New Jersey, the was they voting sessions taking a few minutes maybe up to five maybe a little bit longer but they're quite fast especially after voters have experienced it once or twice. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:35:35 So that is the audio ballot session. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:35:37 There are a number of other features that come with the visual session. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:35:44 Things like high contrast mode. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:35:47 Or larger text but the primary thing is [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:35:52 this machine is designed to get all types of voters through as quickly as possible. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:35:59 So a very quick voting experience for a voter that doesn't use assistive technologies. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:36:06 A very fast technologies for the voters that do. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:36:09 The one thing if you are seeing this presentation that you will not see right now [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:36:16 is the machine comes with a curtain so if you think about the lever machine days and I think we'll show that here on the screen, you can walk into the curtain and be completely enclosed. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:36:29 So you could keep the screen up. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:36:32 The screen is large enough to where you really cannot block it from view with your body so thus the curtain so if you have a longing for the lever machine days which a lot of assistive voters do not, this does give you excellent privacy. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:36:49 The other thing is for seated voters, [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:36:54 let's see if we can — the screen is adjustable. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:36:58 So I can tilt it back for a tall voter. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:37:02 I can make it push down all the way for a seated voter. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:37:09 And the typical positioning is going to be somewhere in between. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:37:19 Also, we have designed the cart with a little space underneath so that a wheelchair voter can roll up and get their feet underneath it. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:37:34 In our presentations that we did for the — we can show it down here — the presentations that we did for some of the blind advocates that came to our demonstration for the New York State Board of Elections, we had one gentleman who used his nose. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:37:55 So he rolled up in his mobility scooter and used his nose for the screen. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:38:01 The screen is infrared technology so instead of an actual touch, there are beams of light that wash across the screen and by breaking those beams, it registers a touch. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:38:14 So there's no need if you have a prosthetic for it to be conductive. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:38:20 You just simply need something that will touch the screen that's at least the size of a finger. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:38:26 So very, very fine stylus is not going to trigger it but a normal finger size or an elbow, or somebody mentioned in a previous session, a hook, are going to allow you to make the selection with the touch screen. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:38:44 The touch screen with this infrared technology does not really require calibration. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:38:51 It's a physical manufacturing process that aligns the technology to the screen. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:38:58 And it will never go out of calibration unless the machine is totally destroyed. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:39:04 - I would like to highlight a comment made by Jean Ryan in the chat. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:39:09 And he mentioned that when they used the lever machine, their scooter wasn't totally covered by the curtain. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:39:16 Our curtain sticks out from the face of the machine from 3 feet. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:39:24 And that curtain was able to close around them but it might fall back on their scooter but the voter themselves was completely within the curtain. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:39:34 And it being able to shut to ensure privacy. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:39:39 Another caveat on privacy. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:39:42 This isn't directly related to the scooter comment but I don't know if we've touched on it. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:39:47 So the console pad. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:39:48 So if you are visually impaired and using the session, so you can ensure that nobody was looking at the screen while you vote. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:40:00 - So we had a question earlier today whether the assistant could — whether the curtain was big enough to have an assistant with you, and the answer is generally yes. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:40:13 The curtain is lightweight, so you can have them in there with you and it works great. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:40:23 So that is the basic operation and we are to the point where we'd be happy to — maybe I guess the one thing that I didn't mention with the keypad, the keypad was designed to be big enough also to have a really, you know, good spacing for the Braille. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:40:43 To make sure that it's not too close to the buttons that it's consistently located so we have gotten some more positive feedback compared to the keypad that's mounted into the automark or other small keypads that some of the voters have seen from other vendors. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:41:04 - So now if we have any questions? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:41:11 - Do we want to change — would you like to change over at this moment, Jodi now that we're paused? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:41:23 - You can either put them in the chat or raise your hand now. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:41:28 - So I see that Michael raised his hand. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:41:31 - And Howard, too. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:41:37 The earlier one. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:41:38 - So I'm a voter with a mobility impairment and I can't use a pen. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:41:46 And I find that this whole demonstration is pretty adequate. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:41:51 I don't think I'd have a problem with this. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:41:52 But as a poll worker I see the process. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:41:56 I'm still not sure what we give the voter. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:42:00 You know, we print, we give them something that they vote with. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:42:04 What is it that we're handing them — what is the card? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:42:09 - I'll describe it. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:42:10 So what is provided is rather than the ballot being handed to the voter when they check in, they'll be handed this cart which is four and a quarter inch wide and it could be a varying length tall depending on how big the ballot is, but what Dean has in front of him is a 4-inch card. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:42:33 - So we give them a blank card? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:42:37 - Well, there's a couple options. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:42:40 One of those — one of the latest technological advances in voting has been electronic poll books so rather than the traditional printing of a poll book with all of the names on it — [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:42:54 - We have that — [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:42:57 - I'm sorry? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:42:58 - We have that. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:42:59 - You need to have an electronic poll book that has all the voters on it because printing a book just becomes unfulfillable. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:43:09 - Right. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:43:10 - So when you have an electronic poll book. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:43:13 Let's say that Kevin C. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:43:20 Shows up to vote, the poll worker would put this card into the — and it would put their ballot style into the card. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:43:30 So it's gone from blank to the name of the election to the style and we're sharing an image of what that looks like in the style. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:43:42 That tells the machine which ballot that voter gets to vote. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:43:46 So in the case of a general election, it pulls up the general be district and then in the case of the primary, it shows up the — so that helps, Michael? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:43:59 - Yes, but my other question is, 'cause that's what I thought was going on, what about the absentee ballots? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:44:08 What do people bein the mail? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:44:10 - It would still send a more traditional ballot where you fill in the oval. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:44:16 - So people who fill in absentee, their ballots would be different than people who voted in person? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:44:23 - That is correct. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:44:24 And that's what happens in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Delaware. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:44:28 - And to jump in, their ballots would be the same, just the tracer or what you audited, the paper ballot would be different but it's the same ballot. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:44:42 - It's going to be two different ones. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:44:45 - Same content, different format. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:44:47 Yeah, good point. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:44:48 - I believe I saw Howard Levine? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:44:54 Hand raised? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:44:58 - Yeah, just give Howard a second. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:45:00 - Will do. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:45:02 - Howard? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:45:03 - And then Lulu, you'll be on deck? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:45:06 - And then we have a question in the chat, too. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:45:11 - And then we'll go to the chat. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:45:13 - Howard, we'll come back to you. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:45:15 Lulu? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:45:16 - My question is a follow up with Michael's so you have these ballots which are basically blank ballots and you're going to have large stacks of them because they don't know, you know, exactly how many voters are coming. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:45:30 New York historically has been documented to have problems keeping track of ballots so there was actually a comptroller's report which I can put in the chat where they said that 27% of the sample, voters were given ballots before they signed the roles. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:45:54 There was actually a lawsuit where people said the ballots were being stuffed into the machine. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:46:00 I'm wondering what are the kind of railings in place to make sure that insider stuffing doesn't happen. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:46:09 You've got a stack of blank ballots sitting around, how do you make sure that people with access to the machine don't start voting? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:46:18 - That's great. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:46:20 And I think that shows the advantage of this system over a pre-printed ballot. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:46:26 So you have a pre-printed ballot all a bad actor needs to do to hack the election, let's say is have a pen. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:46:38 With the card, you need access to the machine, you not only need a card but access to the machine. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:46:44 So having access to the paper affords you nothing. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:46:46 You cannot commit any nefarious act to the election unlike with a traditional pre-printed ballot because that ballot is ready to be scanned. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:46:56 All you need to do is apply a pen and paper to it. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:47:13 And they got into the machine and executed several voting sessions. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:47:17 It's a very difficult proposition that I've just laid out where the election administrators are in place to prevent. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:47:26 But you made another point. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:47:28 I kind of went down the bad actor route. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:47:32 And the other point is simple accounting of paper and make sure that you don't lose something. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:47:38 One nice thing that the way that this is delivered is they come in cellophane wraps. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:47:45 And the big thing about our jurisdictions is that they're not allowed to open one stack of 100 unless they've depleted the entire stack. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:48:00 They need to do a paper inventory check if they open up a stack of 100, they've had 10 voters check in, they should have 90 sheets left in that stack, correct? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:48:17 Their numbers are always going to be off. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:48:20 If you don't make them check throughout the day, where their paper inventory stands. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:48:26 With that answer, I am treading into the election jurisdiction's realm here, and I think it's worthwhile to point out the distinction between what vendors like ourselves play versus the election administrators. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:48:42 We provide the machines. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:48:44 We provide the service to support those machines. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:48:47 Some of the things that you're touching on fall into jurisdiction best practices and in some cases state mandates what should be done or what should not be done. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:49:01 We advise our customers of best practices we've seen put in place. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:49:05 And our customers adopt and modify for what's best for their needs. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:49:11 - I think what I would also say is there are a lot of very similar modes of operation that have been learned using the old oval ballots that directly translate to using these, as well. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:49:26 Even something like we could make this available in a numbered stubbed pack so you could have a numbered stack on each one. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:49:36 You're keeping track of how many you're issuing and periodically throughout the day you could check your day along with how many you've issued, how many you should have issued and how many are on the machine. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:49:48 So there are some pretty straightforward ways that a lot of the jurisdictions are already familiar with with their current ballots. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:49:55 Yeah. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:49:58 I do think it's — [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:49:59 - Can we move on? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:50:00 'Cause — with the accessibility questions here and we are running out of time and I do have Howard's question and I do have Yasmin's question and — [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:50:14 - So Howard's question is from what I understand, on an Apple iPhone or an Android phone, I guess — I may be wrong on this, somehow you could touch the screen when you have, like, a screen reader and it will tell you what it's on the screen and you can select it if you want it, and I was wondering if we could have that technology put into voting machines. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:50:39 So that instead of having to use the separate thing to touch on the machine you could just put your finger on the screen. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:50:50 And someone is up for governor and Mr. Zelden also running for the position and then you could tap on whoever you wanted and select that person. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:51:02 - There is, in the audio session, you can be listening to it but if you are capable of using the touch screen, the touch screen is active so you can use a combination of touches and audio so you can touch it, and it will play it, if you didn't want to select it, you can deselect it. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:51:23 So that was one of the complexity of developing this but we think it works pretty well. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:51:28 - You can do it on the screen, you don't need the separate device, is that correct? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:51:32 - Yes, some people, especially a low literacy voter or a low cognitive voter, they can listen to it fine. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:51:44 So there's a lot of different ways that you can interact with the machine, great questions. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:51:49 - I hope that answers your question, Howard, if it doesn't call me back. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:51:54 And then we have Yasmin and Jean. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:51:56 - Yasmin? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:51:58 - Hi, yes I just had a question about the paper. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:52:02 It seems pretty long that you have in your hand. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:52:06 I just wanted to know what would happened if the paper, like, jammed or something? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:52:12 Would you be able to, like — if you had to start all over again, would you get a different paper or, like, how would that work if it got, like, stuck? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:52:20 - Yeah, so first off, I'm proud to say this very rarely jams and one of the reasons it jams. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:52:29 so infrequently because it's a very simple paper pathway unlike your automarks that you have in New York today, they have to print on one side of the ballot and flip over, and print it on the other side. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:52:44 That flipping gets pretty complex especially with a machine from 2009 and that can lead to jams. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:52:52 Unlike this machine, there's nothing that it can get caught up on. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:52:56 And I am very proud to say we do not experience a lot of jams. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:53:01 I'll give you a real-life example. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:53:04 New Jersey one of the things they learned when they first rolled out this machine is they were handing people cards while they were in line and maybe this is to Lulu's point and batted management. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:53:20 Well, it was raining the day when we were holding out the cards, they start folding them. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:53:27 They were holding them against their wet jackets. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:53:30 We had a good number of jams that day but that was one of the things that they learned. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:53:37 You should not and cannot be handing out cards ahead of time. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:53:41 But to the other part of your question, if it does jam, your poll worker do not need anything, they can open up the compartment where the paper resides, and they'll generally break a seal and they will unlock it, and there's a couple of simple levers that open up the machine. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:54:02 - I can very easily get into the paper pathway here to remove the obstruction. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:54:07 - Now because everything is behind a curtain, any time someone's monkeying with any of the panels on the door, a light starts blinking and the poll worker comes running. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:54:22 But in this case, it's also going to tell the poll worker that ballot that was caught in the paper path was accounted. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:54:31 And just needs to go back into the bin or was it not counted and it needs to be reinserted and to have it scanned in again. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:54:43 So very clear instructions to the poll worker. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:54:50 - Great question. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:54:51 - And the lengthy of the paper is the same as the standard ballot, the traditional ballot that would be used. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:54:59 So if you're using a 14-inch ballot for mail in votes, they would be using a 14-inch and you would have the same length. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:55:09 - All right. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:55:10 Yasmin. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:55:11 Will you good? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:55:12 — are you good? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:55:14 Did that answer your question? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:55:15 - Yes, thank you. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:55:16 - If somebody has a question — has Howard's question. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:55:21 In the meantime. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:55:23 I have the same sized ballot as non-disabled voters from Jean? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:55:28 - That's one of the proud things from this machine. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:55:32 Unlike today, all voters vote on the same machine on a polling location as well as on the same sheet of paper, once that is cast, there's no way to know what language that was cast in, and any accessibility features that were used. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:55:48 That ballot is indistinguishable from any other vote cast in a polling location. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:55:57 But to Michael's point, the mail ballot still has to be the still fill in an oval ballot. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:56:04 That will look different. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:56:08 Will be the same fit, form, and function. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:56:13 - On the screen, you're seeing a mail out ballot as well as an express vote card. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:56:21 - And if there's no questions on that, we can go into a few of the things. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:56:29 Those traditional ballots because the full face ballot, the print on those is very small. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:56:34 The ExpressVote card is much easier to validate because it's just showing the selections that you've made. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:56:41 - We have five minutes left for the presentation. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:56:44 Kathy and Howard both have hands raised. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:56:46 Kathy, do you have Howard's question? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:56:49 - No, but he was having trouble unmuting. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:56:52 When he tried to, it said that the host needed to unmute him. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:57:02 - Who is the host? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:57:04 - We are. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:57:05 - We have no ability to unmute him. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:57:07 - Okay. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:57:08 - I do not why it would not work for him. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:57:11 It's probably a simple technical difficult. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:57:20 difficulty. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:57:20 - I just wanted to — I know in the earlier presentation, somebody asked the question about maintenance of the machines if you could go into that. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:57:31 And then also with the actual card, there's that little corner that is a little bit, cut off, so if you could explain to people that that's all about, let's let people know. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:57:45 - So for the maintenance, it's really simple, keeping the batteries charged properly and then inside of the unit or the paper path, there's both a print head and a scan head. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:57:58 So opening that up and keeping that clean that is really the extent of the maintenance. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:58:06 - So no consumables. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:58:09 - No attorney. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:58:11 no toner. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:58:14 - And that is pretty much it. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:58:19 The corner cut, because it's themmal stock and the thermal coating is on the front, it is something that you have to insert it so that the right side is up. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:58:32 So the voter will be instructed to insert their card with that corner cut leading on the leading edge to the right. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:58:41 And if you do not insert it the correct way, the machine will not let you do it wrong. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:58:48 So if you insert it backwards or flipped over, the machine will alert you and turn it over. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:58:55 - Make sure you have it going the right direct examination. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:58:58 — the right direction. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:59:02 - One minute, for one last great question or just a small joke. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:59:07 - Well, if no one has a question a comment — [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:59:12 - Yasmin has a question. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:59:15 - I just wanna know, real quick since we're talking about the paper worst case scenario if there was, like, a tear or something in the paper would you still be able to use it? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:59:27 - Yeah. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:59:27 - Or does it make it defective? [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:59:30 - It's probably going to be used. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:59:33 The critical area is the top three inches so it depends where that tear occurred. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:59:38 - So the one thing that it's going to do is every time it prints the card, it also scans the card so that if for some reason, the paper was damaged or if the printer wasn't working it properly, the machine will scan it, and it will noise that after it was done printing, it couldn't read the card itself. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 19:59:58 And so it would throw an alert and make sure — 'cause we never want a card to not be able to be counted. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 20:00:07 - In other words we make sure that it's a good readable card that we can scan the votes on before we let the voter go. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 20:00:18 - All right. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 20:00:19 7:00. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 20:00:20 - Nice. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 20:00:21 - Central. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 20:00:22 - Sorry, I'm in Nebraska. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 20:00:25 - Okay. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 20:00:29 - Thank you so much! [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 20:00:32 Please feel free to contact us. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 20:00:35 Through, you know, any method you'd like. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 20:00:38 We have a website. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 20:00:40 We, as mentioned before, we hope to provide some live-demo opportunities so we hope to meet y'all and provide you with an in-person experience with the machine. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 20:00:51 So thank you so much for your time. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 20:00:52 - And if you have questions or comments, again, you can reach out to us. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 20:00:57 If you have a comment that you'd like to make in private or if you'd like to have questions that you think of later, we love it. [stanley sakai - captioner (Captioner)] 20:01:04 We welcome that and appreciate your