00:10:13 Joseph Backes: Hello everybody. 00:12:18 David Knight: Welcome to Project JFK / CSI Dallas Presents The Journey December 16th, 2023. 00:50:00 Bob Saltzman: Larry@schnapflaw.com 01:01:01 Joseph Backes: This is STUPID! 01:01:19 Lana: Where's the Bostonian accent?? 01:01:43 Joseph Backes: I hate this. 01:03:01 Joseph Backes: This isn’t JFK. It’s a dumb computer cartoon. 01:03:20 Bentley Doyle: This particular AI example cheapens the efforts of those of you doing great research. 01:05:14 Bob Saltzman: Before AI there was an actual extraordinary JFK impersonator: 01:05:18 Bob Saltzman: https://mobituaries.com/news/the-podcast/season-3/season-2/season-1/jfk-impersonator-vaughn-meader/ 01:05:52 Bentley Doyle: Point taken. Thank you, David. 01:08:15 Bob Saltzman: I have bought up almost every JFK book that has been discarded by my local library over the years. I then give them away at my presentations. 01:13:14 Joseph Backes: Reacted to "I have bought up alm..." with 👍🏻 01:28:21 Scott Edwards: We’re seeing the files, not the individual photo. 01:35:57 PM: Chaney 01:36:04 Phillip Lavelle: Chaney 01:36:27 Lana: This is several seconds before the shots though 01:37:32 Lana: headshot I mean 01:49:42 Joseph Backes: My latest post on my substack - https://justiceforkennedy.substack.com/p/mr-no-f-ing-clue-claims-bob-jackson. 01:49:54 Joseph Backes: Please subscribe - https://justiceforkennedy.substack.com 02:25:54 rforc: who developed the original Altgens film? 02:29:04 Lana: Is the silver box face reflective? 02:29:23 David Knight: https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=Awriiu6WE35lcMU7lY2JzbkF;_ylu=c2VjA3NlYXJjaARzbGsDYnV0dG9u;_ylc=X1MDOTYwNjI4NTcEX3IDMgRmcgNtY2FmZWUEZnIyA3A6cyx2OmksbTpzYi10b3AEZ3ByaWQDalBxWXRROW5SNE8yRHBZTXZ3RjZMQQRuX3JzbHQDMARuX3N1Z2cDMARvcmlnaW4DaW1hZ2VzLnNlYXJjaC55YWhvby5jb20EcG9zAzAEcHFzdHIDBHBxc3RybAMwBHFzdHJsAzM2BHF1ZXJ5A2JhYnVzaGthJTIwbGFkeSUyMGpmayUyMHNlYXJzJTIwdG93ZXIlMjBjYW1lcmEEdF9zdG1wAzE3MDI3NjE0NjQ-?p=babushka+lady+jfk+sears+tower+camera&fr=mcafee&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Ai%2Cm%3Asb-top&ei=UTF-8&x=wrt&type=E210US1285G0#id=15&iurl=https%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-XpmaplXVaU4%2FVcXTFEt551I%2FAAAAAAAAhVI%2F-n3FNIEdgqg%2Fs640%2FBabushka%252Bwith%252B2%252Bcameras.jpg&action=click 02:31:37 Frank Notaro: Zapruder Film Link - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgoDhZJYYKg 02:31:39 Lana: This is around 288 - 298 frames 02:32:30 Lana: Last visible in frame 297 02:37:42 Lana: Above but low because it;s autumn 02:38:10 Lana: It's to the south 02:38:35 iPhone: Reflection. But good you are trying to seek more info but this is a reflection. And many other artifacts in previous blown up photo. Photography isn’t reality because of tech limitations. 02:38:37 Phillip Lavelle: And, people in front of TSBD shading eyes 02:39:07 Lana: Gene Hill, no 02:39:20 Lana: Mary's right hand it lit up 02:43:25 Phillip Lavelle: I'm stunned at supposed Babushka Lady crossing street after and looks much older than Beverly should be. I always assumed Beverly was truthful, and Gary Shaw interviewed her around '70. Talked to both in person about 8 years ago. 02:46:04 PM: Whitehead and Wilkinson 02:46:15 PM: Indeed 02:46:48 iPhone: Has anyone ever actually asked the CIA and FBI and Dallas Police who was the so-called Babushka Lady? They confiscated many cameras so they should know who owned this camera. Beverly Oliver is a fraud in my humble opinion. Looks nothing like this woman. 02:47:08 Phillip Lavelle: The Hollywood group got spooked after the dark forces altered the films that were taken NOW showing hair 02:47:35 Bart Kamp: EVIDENCE FOR THIS? 02:47:41 Phillip Lavelle: where the black patch and back of the head was located. 02:48:36 Bart Kamp: I MEAN EVIDENCE FOR THE H7 GETTING SPOOKED 02:51:38 Bentley Doyle: What to make of the Landis bullet? 02:51:43 Phillip Lavelle: Yes, evidence and witnesses. Mantik and Peter Janney saw what was there and photographed it. Thus, if the Hollywood group now comes out, the only proof is the newly altered photos(I use photos but are prints of some sort. It is large, but I can cut and paste the Doug Horne email clarifying what happened. I'm not doing a good job of it. 02:52:08 rforc: who had the opportunity to adukterate the Altgens film? 02:53:37 Joseph Backes: Replying to "who had the opportun..." The Altgens photos were not altered, this is all BS. 02:55:08 rforc: Replying to "who had the opportun..." thanks 02:56:24 Bart Kamp: Reacted to "The Altgens photos w..." with 👍🏿 02:56:45 Bart Kamp: GOTTA GO, EVERYONE HAVE A FAB HOLIDAYS!!!! 02:57:11 Joseph Backes: Replying to "GOTTA GO, EVERYONE H..." Bye Bart. Happy Holidays to you too. 02:59:13 Bill T.: Replying to "GOTTA GO, EVERYONE H..." Merry Christmas Bart. 03:07:24 Joseph Backes: This is total BS, he uses low grade Zapruder images and enlarges then until he gets pixilation and then claims he’s found something. He’s creating the distortion. 03:08:10 Joseph Backes: Tim you scared him away. Well done! 03:15:18 Mike Machanska: NO WAY. BLOW OUT WOUNDS ARE BIGGER AT EXIT. 03:17:21 Lana: There is a woman who said that, forgot her name, but she was with her husband and is referred to by her surname 03:20:08 rforc: Is 45 caliber a rifle round? 03:20:26 Scott Edwards: How does shooting through a closed window affect this computation? 03:21:55 Lana: I think I'm thinking of Carolyn Walther 03:23:38 Joseph Backes: He’s talking about cavitation, which is a real thing. 03:30:36 rforc: is he talking about buddy walther picking up a bullet in the grass? 03:30:59 Phillip Lavelle: I'm game for pulling the plug!!! 03:33:16 Gerry Quinn: Did the Dallas doctors see the wound described by Tim? 03:38:00 PM: No. 03:39:43 Bentley Doyle: My apologies if it's too late in the meeting to ask this, but if there's time, will one of you advise as to what we should make of the Landis bullet (presuming, for the sake of argument, he is telling the truth)? 03:41:50 Joseph Backes: Replying to "My apologies if it's..." Ignore it. He’s confused about the Single Bullet Theory and Josiah Thompson’s book “Six Second in Dallas.” 03:42:17 Bentley Doyle: Reacted to "Ignore it. He’s conf…" with 👌 03:42:34 PM: A photo from the earlier discussion 03:42:38 Joseph Backes: Please subscribe - https://justiceforkennedy.substack.com 03:47:39 Lana: Any good researchers who did a lot of work on fleshettes? 03:51:52 Joseph Backes: Replying to "Any good researchers..." One guy but I’m forgetting his name. Oh, R. B. Cutler, I think. 03:51:59 Gerry Quinn: Groden and many 'experts' say that the Z film has not been altered . 03:52:01 Bentley Doyle: Newmans 03:53:41 Lana: Reacted to "One guy but I’m f..." with 👍 03:57:28 Lana: Every time I think about the doctors not finding bullets in Kennedy for the neck or back, I think of Reagan and the fleshette that shot him. 04:06:23 Joseph Backes: What is this second agent stuff? 04:07:03 Gerry Quinn: There are photos of a leg hanging out the car. 04:08:37 Joseph Backes: Replying to "There are photos of ..." Its Clint Hill’s foot. 04:09:55 iPhone: I actually think Clint hill’s responsibility was to Jackie and he should’ve pulled her off the rear of car - for all anyone knew they were driving straight into more fire. 04:12:00 Joseph Backes: Glen Bennet got in the JFK limo? Is that what someone is saying? 04:26:10 iPhone: How does Groden explain dark black patch on rear and side of JFK’s head? 04:28:43 Gerry Quinn: I think he accepts they may have touched up the film but not that they cut out whole sections like Larry, Mike, David and others suggest. 04:33:00 iPhone: Ok thanks - that would explain it but never heard him express that. 04:33:42 Gerry Quinn: Did any eyewitnesses ever describe the 'back and to the left' movement rather than the President slumped down ? 04:42:43 Bentley Doyle: Yes, Bill Newman said JFK came up a bit off his seat, and also said the limo stopped momentarily. 04:43:40 Gerry Quinn: But not 'back and to the left' 04:44:42 Gerry Quinn: The reason I say this is that those who believe the Z film has been changed say that this is an unintended result of the changes. 04:51:31 iPhone: One of the radio stations and tv stations should’ve had a sound recording made of entire motorcade parade. Why haven’t at least one recording surfaced with sounds of gunfire not to mention film? 04:56:52 Lana: Four who Died Trying 05:01:18 Lana: I'm intrigued, Bob, by your project! At the end of the day, people like mysteries and people like to participate in achieving something. 05:07:12 Bentley Doyle: Reacted to "I'm intrigued, Bob, …" with 👍 06:16:34 Lana: Autobahn. Thank you, David and all for the interesting discussion! Happy holidays!! 06:27:35 Mike Machanska: Great scene in the extended version of Oliver Stones NIXON when Anthony Hopkins goes into Helms office and lays in to him. 06:31:08 Bob Saltzman: Interesting conversation - whether I agree or not. I think that I am "fried." 06:32:48 David Knight: It's time to wrap up for the day. lol 06:33:05 Bentley Doyle: Reacted to "It's time to wrap up…" with 👍